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Mandibole animali (Aetolia)

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DE GREGE EPICURI

Vi mostro questo bronzetto dell'Aetolia (3,7g. e 15 mm) per porre un quesito specifico. Al D., una testa  femminile a destra; è evidente anche il numero 80 scritto a china bianca (vecchia collezione). Al rovescio: una lancia, una mandibola animale e la scritta  ΑΙΤΟΛΑΝΟΝ, solo parzialmente leggibile. Dovrebbe essere del 168 a.C.  Quel che mi incuriosisce è la mandibola animale, presente anche su diverse altre monete (ad es. un bronzo di Panormos con Giano bifronte): che senso ha questo oggetto, e perchè veniva inserito?  Era usato forse come arma, come mi sembra di ricordare dalla Bibbia (credo che Sansone usasse una mandibola d'asino)? O c'erano significati diversi?

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Si tratta di una mandibola di cinghiale, a ricordo del cinghiale di Calidone, in Etolia, che era stato inviato da Artemide a distruggere i campi della regione perché il re Eneo era venuto meno nelle offerte votive succedute a un eccellente raccolto, trascurando la dea. Per liberarsi della belva, Eneo organizzò una caccia in cui chiese la partecipazione di quasi tutti gli eroi del mito greco, nella quale il cinghiale fu ucciso da Meleagro.

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Il tema della punta di lancia sopra il mascellare del cinghiale, caratteristico dell’Etolia dove è raffigurato su monete della Lega Etolica coniate prima del 191 a. C. e successivamente sulle monete degli alleati degli Etoli (168-148 a. C.), si trova anche su bronzi romani-siciliani con la testa di Giano sul diritto coniati dopo il 241 a. C.

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Sicily. Sicily, Bronze, Panormos, After 241 BC, AE, (5.92 g, 22 mm, h 8). Head of Janus, Rv. Spear-head and jawbone of boar. CNS I, n. 108. Rare.

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Miniatura di Sansone che uccide dei Filistei servendosi di una mascella di cinghiale tratta dalla Maciejowski Bible

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Statua raffigurante Sansone

Notizie interessanti qui:

https://medium.com/@jamiestantonian/the-caves-of-es-skhul-5bbf0d980f9a

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Interessante @King John! Però dubito che, in ambito greco e romano, vi fosse una allusione al racconto biblico. Se però trovo comprensibile la raffigurazione di una mandibola sulle monete etoli per quanto detto da @apollonia, meno chiara mi risulta quella sulle monete di Panormo

 

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La mascella di cinghiale è raffigurata anche su alcune monete di Aitai in Tessaglia, sempre accanto ad una punta di lancia, cosa che farebbe pensare ad un suo utilizzo come arma come raccontato dalla Bibbia e come d'altra parte facevano anche gli indiani d'America....

Coins of Thessaly, the BCD Collection
Oitaioi
Circa 279-168 BC. Dichalkon (Bronze, 17mm, 4.90 g 11), Of Aitolian type, struck during the Oitaioi’s membership in the Aitolian League, Herakleia Trachinia. Laureate head of Apollo to right. Rev. OITAI / WN Spear head right above jawbone of a boar to right; between them, monogram of PAR; to left, bunch of grapes. Rogers 418. SNG Copenhagen 182. SNG Munich 127. Valassiadis 14. Glossy, dark brown patina. About extremely fine.

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e ancora...

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Bronze, first half of 2nd century BC. Æ 3.22 g., 8¢. Head of Apollo r., laureate. Rev. Spear-head and jawbone of Calydonian boar r., to l., bunch of grapes. QRO above, NI in the middle, EWN below. BMC 2, pl. II, 15. SNG Cop 83. Fitzwilliam (McClean) 5645, pl. 199, 2.
A rare and attractive coin with an olive-green patina and nearly extremely fine.

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La presenza della mascella di cinghiale su questo tetradramma di tipo alessandrino ne ha suggerito l'attribuzione alla Lega etolica....

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Aitolian League. Tetradrachm (Silver, 17.02 g 11), Circa 239. Head of youthful Herakles to right, wearing lionskin headdress. Rev. ALEXANDROU Zeus, holding eagle in his right hand and scepter with his left, seated left on throne; to left, below his right hand, boar’s jaw bone to right; to left and below throne, monogram. Price - . Cf. D. Tsangari, Corpus des Monnaies d’or, d’argent et de bronze de la Confédération Ætolienne (Athens, 2007), Third Series, Issue 16, 460-461 and Issue 17, 462-463, all struck from the same obverse die, D 1, but with an Aetolian League reverse. A. Walker, “Silvia Hurter: Some Memories and a New Coin from Aetolia,” SNR 88 (2009), pp. 15-22, fig. 1 ( this coin ). Unique. A spectacular piece of great numismatic interest, beautifully centered and of very fine Hellenistic style. Extremely fine. From the Collection Z, Switzerland, ex Lanz 146, 25 May 2009, 114 (misidentified).
This coin is a numismatic discovery of great importance. The unusual symbol, the jawbone of a boar, strongly suggested that it had been minted in Aetolia, but it was its superb and highly individual obverse style that allowed it to be more securely identified. Upon comparing it to the wellknown tetradrachms struck by the Aetolian League (obverse: head of Herakles in a lionskin headdress; reverse: seated figure of Aetolia) a rather astonishing discovery was made: this obverse die was not only used for the first League tetradrachms (obverse D 1), but it was then recut (D 2) and continued in use for the immediately following issues! This means that the Aetolians must have decided to produce tetradrachms, probably for military payments in the run up to the war against Macedon, initially of the familiar Alexander type. They then almost immediately decided to change the design for a more patriotic version of their own, especially since using a Macedonian coin type to finance a war against Macedon probably felt most peculiar.

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...ma il simbolo della mascella di cinghiale ricorre anche altrove e qui pare che il riferimento alla mandibola quale simbolo della lega etolica non c'entri...

KINGS of ILLYRIA. Monounios. Circa 305/0-280/75 BC. AR Stater (20mm, 10.70 g, 1h). Cow standing right, looking back at suckling calf standing left below; above, jawbone of boar right / Double stellate pattern divided by line, all in double linear square border; BAΣIΛEΩΣ MONOYNIOY at sides; all within linear circle border. Gjongecaj emission 5, 204–5 (same dies); Paškvan –; Maier –; Meadows, CH (forthcoming) 230 (this coin); SNG Copenhagen –; BMC 3. Good VF, a couple small die breaks. Extremely rare emission 5 stater.
Monounios, an Illyrian king in the late 4th – early 3rd centuries BC, was the first Illyrian king to issue coins in his own name. The Illyrians consisted of a number of tribes whose habitation extended from the coast to the mountainous inland area bordering on Paeonia. These tribes were not politically unified, but it seems that they were connected by a common culture and language, and were governed by hereditary kings and queens. Little of their language is known, and it was extinct by the 5th century AD, but enough fragments are attested to classify it as Indo-European.
Although little is known of Monounios’ reign, his issue of coinage took place only after he had extended his influence to Dyrrhachion, and the coinage may have been connected with his intervention in Macedonian affairs. In 280 or 279, it is reported that Monounios unsuccessfully aided Ptolemy I Epigone, son of Lysimachos, against Ptolemy Keraunos. A bronze helmet has been found in Lake Ohrid, on the border between modern-day Macedon and Albania, with the Greek inscription ‘Of King Monounios’, apparently confirming the presence of his army in this conflict of Macedonian succession. Pompeius Trogus (24,4) describes a “Dardanian prince” who offered Ptolemy Keraunos help against the invading Celts in 279. It seems likely that this prince was Monounios, and either Monounios had Dardanian heritage (references to which are not preserved elsewhere), or the distinction between Illyrian and Dardanian was unclear to the author.
The circumstances under which Monounios came to control the mint at Dyrrhachion are unknown. Around that time, Dyrrhachion issued an Alexander-type tetradrachm (Paškvan 1a = Price 661) which is obverse die linked to an issue struck in Monounios' name (Paškvan 1 = Price pl. CLVIII, H). It is likely that these issues were the first coinage he struck, and it was probably a very small issue--only one example of each are known today. In any case, Monounios was apparently content to adopt the familiar cow / stellate design of Dyrrhachion for the bulk of his coinage, of which there are various issues. The first issue (Gjongecaj identifies five) is linked to Monounios solely by his monogram that appears above the cow on the obverse, while the reverse is unchanged from the standard type with club and ethnic. This subtle introduction of his name in the form of a monogram may well indicate that he did not gain control of Dyrrhachion by force, and we can imagine that he may even have been invited in by at least one faction within the city. However, he was soon bold enough to replace the monogram with his name and title. The second emission features the jaw bone of a boar above the cow on the obverse, the legend ΒΑCIΛEΩC MONOYNIOY on two sides of the rectangle, with ΔYPPA and the club on the remaining sides. The third emission adds a ground line to the obverse, while the reverse reads ΒΑCIΛEΩC MONOYNIOY on two sides, ΔY above and P below, with the club completely eliminated. Sometimes in this issue there is a control mark in the obverse exergue, such as a bird. For the fourth emission, the obverse remains the same as on the third emission, but on the reverse the city’s abbreviation has been replaced with a club and a spearhead. On the fifth and final emission, the obverse remains the same, but the reverse legend features only Monounios’ name and title, omitting both the city’s name and the control marks of the club and the spearhead. The succession of issues, as Monounios’ name increases in prominence and the city name is ultimately removed, suggests a gradual increase in Monounios’ authority and an awareness that he could use the coinage to reflect his rising power.
The significance of the boar’s jaw on the obverses of Gjongecaj's emissions 2-5 is a mystery. Jördens and Becht-Jördens have pointed out that the boar’s jaw went on to become the symbol of the Aitolian League on their coinage, suggesting a connection with the Caledonian Boar that, according to legend, inhabited Aitolia before being killed by a group of Greek heroes. However, this does not explain the connection with Monounios, since Illyria is not near Aitolia, nor is it near Arkadia, the home of that other famous beast, the Erymanthian Boar. There also seems to be no link between the Greek words for either ‘boar’ or ‘jaw’ and the names of any Illyrian tribe or member of the royal family, nor was any Illyrian hero present at the hunt for the Caledonian boar.
The pecularities of Monounios’s coinage have led to speculation about the circumstances in which an Illyrian king would issue coins at a Greek city, adopting the city’s designs but placing his own name and title on the coins. Otto Mørkholm and Ulrike Peter suggest that Dyrrhachion could simply have loaned Monounios its minting facilities for a set period of time, possibly for an emergency issue. However, the multiple issues by Monounios and the fact that Monounios’ successor Mytilios also issued coins from Dyrrhachion suggest a more permanent link, possibly in the form of conquest or at least some form of political control.
The cow / stellate pattern coins of Monounios have rarely appeared in the market. CoinArchives includes only two specimens sold in all the recorded auctions through 2011. In the catalogs of major public collections, there are three in the BM (BMC 1-3), three in Tübingen (SNG 1341 and 1508-9), two in Munich (SNG 468-9), two in Copenhagen (SNG 425 and 528), one in the Fitzwilliam (McClean 5075), one in Brussels (Hirsch 1174), and one in Venice (von Schlosser p. 66, 1). In addition to these published pieces, Maier also records four in Berlin, two in Paris (one of which may be Mionnet II 164), and one in Vienna. In the major private collections, there is one each in Jameson (no. 1112), Lockett (SNG 1642 = Pozzi 2943), and Weber (no. 2978).

 

 

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Ritroviamo la mascella di cinghiale anche in un'altra località della Tessaglia e sempre in abbinamento alla punta di lancia e al grappolo d'uva ..... mah... 
 
THESSALY, Ainianes. Hypata . 3rd - 2nd centuries BC. Æ Chalkous or dichalkon (18mm, 5.04 g, 12h). Magistrate Αrist... Laureate and bearded head of Zeus r. / ΑΙΝΙΑ above, ΝΩΝ in the middle and ΑΡΙΣΤ below, spearhead r. over jawbone of a boar; to l. grapes. Rogers 140. Good VF, dark green-brown patina, a well struck coin. Very rare.

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Per rientrare in tema, cioè al bronzetto di gpittini con la scritta  ΑΙΤΟΛΑΝΟΝ, il pdf allegato ha come oggetto uno studio sulle 1.425 monete antiche ritrovate a Monte Iato, vicino a Panormos, negli scavi dal 1971 al 1990, nel quale sono descritte le varie serie monetali tra cui quella con testa di Giano/corona, e citato anche il tipo con la punta di lancia sopra il mascellare di cinghiale sul rovescio caratteristico dell’Etolia.

La Lega Etolica fu il primo alleato greco della Repubblica Romana, schierandosi con i Romani durante la Prima Guerra Macedone e aiutando a sconfiggere Filippo V di Macedonia nella battaglia di Cinocefale nel 197 a. C., durante la Seconda Guerra Macedone.

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2 ore fa, King John dice:

La mascella di cinghiale è raffigurata anche su alcune monete di Aitai in Tessaglia, sempre accanto ad una punta di lancia, cosa che farebbe pensare ad un suo utilizzo come arma come raccontato dalla Bibbia e come d'altra parte facevano anche gli indiani d'America....

Coins of Thessaly, the BCD Collection
Oitaioi
Circa 279-168 BC. Dichalkon (Bronze, 17mm, 4.90 g 11), Of Aitolian type, struck during the Oitaioi’s membership in the Aitolian League, Herakleia Trachinia. Laureate head of Apollo to right. Rev. OITAI / WN Spear head right above jawbone of a boar to right; between them, monogram of PAR; to left, bunch of grapes. Rogers 418. SNG Copenhagen 182. SNG Munich 127. Valassiadis 14. Glossy, dark brown patina. About extremely fine.

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La mascella di cinghiale è raffigurata anche su alcune monete di Aitai in Tessaglia...

Monete di Aitai!? Vedo che sei in vena d’invenzioni!

Per tua informazione, Eta (Οἴτη, Oeta) è una catena montuosa della Tessaglia e gli Etei (Οἰταῖοι), che abitavano il distretto del monte Eta, costituivano un κοινόν indipendente. Località principali erano Anticira, Driope, Antele, Trachide e, dopo il 371 a. C., Eraclea. Nel 322 gli Etei parteciparono con gli Etoli alla guerra lamiaca in favore degli Ateniesi. Dal 280 al 168 fecero parte della Lega Etolica, dal 162 al 148 di quella Achea.

Non c’è da meravigliarsi quindi che, in nome di questa alleanza, su questo bronzo compaiano gli stessi elementi figurativi (punta di lancia - arma con cui è stato ucciso il cinghiale calidonico - sopra il mascellare di cinghiale e grappolo d’uva) dei bronzi dell’Etolia. Del resto la didascalia dice espressamente che si tratta di un tipo etolico.

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2 ore fa, King John dice:

e ancora...

LOKRIS
LOKRI OPUNTII
THRONION
Bronze, first half of 2nd century BC. Æ 3.22 g., 8¢. Head of Apollo r., laureate. Rev. Spear-head and jawbone of Calydonian boar r., to l., bunch of grapes. QRO above, NI in the middle, EWN below. BMC 2, pl. II, 15. SNG Cop 83. Fitzwilliam (McClean) 5645, pl. 199, 2.
A rare and attractive coin with an olive-green patina and nearly extremely fine.

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e ancora...

Proprio, come si legge nella didascalia: Rev. Spear-head and jawbone of Calydonian boar r., to l., bunch of grapes.

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2 ore fa, King John dice:

...ma il simbolo della mascella di cinghiale ricorre anche altrove e qui pare che il riferimento alla mandibola quale simbolo della lega etolica non c'entri...

KINGS of ILLYRIA. Monounios. Circa 305/0-280/75 BC. AR Stater (20mm, 10.70 g, 1h). Cow standing right, looking back at suckling calf standing left below; above, jawbone of boar right / Double stellate pattern divided by line, all in double linear square border; BAΣIΛEΩΣ MONOYNIOY at sides; all within linear circle border. Gjongecaj emission 5, 204–5 (same dies); Paškvan –; Maier –; Meadows, CH (forthcoming) 230 (this coin); SNG Copenhagen –; BMC 3. Good VF, a couple small die breaks. Extremely rare emission 5 stater.
Monounios, an Illyrian king in the late 4th – early 3rd centuries BC, was the first Illyrian king to issue coins in his own name. The Illyrians consisted of a number of tribes whose habitation extended from the coast to the mountainous inland area bordering on Paeonia. These tribes were not politically unified, but it seems that they were connected by a common culture and language, and were governed by hereditary kings and queens. Little of their language is known, and it was extinct by the 5th century AD, but enough fragments are attested to classify it as Indo-European.
Although little is known of Monounios’ reign, his issue of coinage took place only after he had extended his influence to Dyrrhachion, and the coinage may have been connected with his intervention in Macedonian affairs. In 280 or 279, it is reported that Monounios unsuccessfully aided Ptolemy I Epigone, son of Lysimachos, against Ptolemy Keraunos. A bronze helmet has been found in Lake Ohrid, on the border between modern-day Macedon and Albania, with the Greek inscription ‘Of King Monounios’, apparently confirming the presence of his army in this conflict of Macedonian succession. Pompeius Trogus (24,4) describes a “Dardanian prince” who offered Ptolemy Keraunos help against the invading Celts in 279. It seems likely that this prince was Monounios, and either Monounios had Dardanian heritage (references to which are not preserved elsewhere), or the distinction between Illyrian and Dardanian was unclear to the author.
The circumstances under which Monounios came to control the mint at Dyrrhachion are unknown. Around that time, Dyrrhachion issued an Alexander-type tetradrachm (Paškvan 1a = Price 661) which is obverse die linked to an issue struck in Monounios' name (Paškvan 1 = Price pl. CLVIII, H). It is likely that these issues were the first coinage he struck, and it was probably a very small issue--only one example of each are known today. In any case, Monounios was apparently content to adopt the familiar cow / stellate design of Dyrrhachion for the bulk of his coinage, of which there are various issues. The first issue (Gjongecaj identifies five) is linked to Monounios solely by his monogram that appears above the cow on the obverse, while the reverse is unchanged from the standard type with club and ethnic. This subtle introduction of his name in the form of a monogram may well indicate that he did not gain control of Dyrrhachion by force, and we can imagine that he may even have been invited in by at least one faction within the city. However, he was soon bold enough to replace the monogram with his name and title. The second emission features the jaw bone of a boar above the cow on the obverse, the legend ΒΑCIΛEΩC MONOYNIOY on two sides of the rectangle, with ΔYPPA and the club on the remaining sides. The third emission adds a ground line to the obverse, while the reverse reads ΒΑCIΛEΩC MONOYNIOY on two sides, ΔY above and P below, with the club completely eliminated. Sometimes in this issue there is a control mark in the obverse exergue, such as a bird. For the fourth emission, the obverse remains the same as on the third emission, but on the reverse the city’s abbreviation has been replaced with a club and a spearhead. On the fifth and final emission, the obverse remains the same, but the reverse legend features only Monounios’ name and title, omitting both the city’s name and the control marks of the club and the spearhead. The succession of issues, as Monounios’ name increases in prominence and the city name is ultimately removed, suggests a gradual increase in Monounios’ authority and an awareness that he could use the coinage to reflect his rising power.
The significance of the boar’s jaw on the obverses of Gjongecaj's emissions 2-5 is a mystery. Jördens and Becht-Jördens have pointed out that the boar’s jaw went on to become the symbol of the Aitolian League on their coinage, suggesting a connection with the Caledonian Boar that, according to legend, inhabited Aitolia before being killed by a group of Greek heroes. However, this does not explain the connection with Monounios, since Illyria is not near Aitolia, nor is it near Arkadia, the home of that other famous beast, the Erymanthian Boar. There also seems to be no link between the Greek words for either ‘boar’ or ‘jaw’ and the names of any Illyrian tribe or member of the royal family, nor was any Illyrian hero present at the hunt for the Caledonian boar.
The pecularities of Monounios’s coinage have led to speculation about the circumstances in which an Illyrian king would issue coins at a Greek city, adopting the city’s designs but placing his own name and title on the coins. Otto Mørkholm and Ulrike Peter suggest that Dyrrhachion could simply have loaned Monounios its minting facilities for a set period of time, possibly for an emergency issue. However, the multiple issues by Monounios and the fact that Monounios’ successor Mytilios also issued coins from Dyrrhachion suggest a more permanent link, possibly in the form of conquest or at least some form of political control.
The cow / stellate pattern coins of Monounios have rarely appeared in the market. CoinArchives includes only two specimens sold in all the recorded auctions through 2011. In the catalogs of major public collections, there are three in the BM (BMC 1-3), three in Tübingen (SNG 1341 and 1508-9), two in Munich (SNG 468-9), two in Copenhagen (SNG 425 and 528), one in the Fitzwilliam (McClean 5075), one in Brussels (Hirsch 1174), and one in Venice (von Schlosser p. 66, 1). In addition to these published pieces, Maier also records four in Berlin, two in Paris (one of which may be Mionnet II 164), and one in Vienna. In the major private collections, there is one each in Jameson (no. 1112), Lockett (SNG 1642 = Pozzi 2943), and Weber (no. 2978).

 

 

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...ma il simbolo della mascella di cinghiale ricorre anche altrove e qui pare che il riferimento alla mandibola quale simbolo della lega etolica non c'entri...

Mi sembra ovvio: con c’è la punta di lancia, non c’è il grappolo d’uva, l’Illiria non è vicina né all’Etolia né all’Arcadia, ecc. Qui la mandibola è… anonima.

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2 ore fa, King John dice:
Ritroviamo la mascella di cinghiale anche in un'altra località della Tessaglia e sempre in abbinamento alla punta di lancia e al grappolo d'uva ..... mah... 
 
THESSALY, Ainianes. Hypata . 3rd - 2nd centuries BC. Æ Chalkous or dichalkon (18mm, 5.04 g, 12h). Magistrate Αrist... Laureate and bearded head of Zeus r. / ΑΙΝΙΑ above, ΝΩΝ in the middle and ΑΡΙΣΤ below, spearhead r. over jawbone of a boar; to l. grapes. Rogers 140. Good VF, dark green-brown patina, a well struck coin. Very rare.

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Nulla di strano: il bronzo è stato coniato usando i tipi della Lega Etolica, come si legge nella didascalia di questo esemplare emesso da un altro monetiere.

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THESSALY, Ainianes. Circa 279-168. (Bronze, 18mm, 3.26 g 12), Struck using the types of the Aitolian League, Hypata. Epikrates. Laureate head of Zeus to right. Rev.ΑΙΝΙΑ/ ΕΠΙΚΡΑΤΟ[Υ]/ΝΩΝ Spearhead over jawbone of a boar. Rogers 140 var. Rare. Dark brown patina. About extremely fine.

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ok. grazie @apollonia per avermi erudito. Eviterò di scrivere altre invenzioni. Ti lascio la parola.

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1 ora fa, King John dice:

ok. grazie @apollonia per avermi erudito. Eviterò di scrivere altre invenzioni. Ti lascio la parola.

No king, prosegui tranquillamente.

un errore di scrittura ci può stare diversamente, siamo qua tutti per imparare, ogni spunto è gradito.

visto che l oggetto è la mandibola di animali, direi che possiamo anche spaziare... gli argomenti nuovi sono sempre di interesse...

grazie

skuby

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King John
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Grazie per la simpatia @skubydu ma devo ammettere di aver detto un po' di cavolate sul tema "mascella" dovute principalmente al fatto che ho postato in fretta le immagini di monete trovate, senza il necessario approfondimento e con gli ospiti a tavola che mi chiamavano. Le mie scuse sincere a @apollonia e a tutti gli altri utenti.

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King John
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Qua c'è la mascella con tutto il cinghiale intorno....

AITOLIA, Aitolian League. Circa 250-225 BC. Drachm (Silver, 18mm, 5.51 g 2). Head of Athena to right, wearing crested Corinthian helmet, pendant earring and pearl necklace, her hair falling down in two straight ringlets. Rev. ΑΙΤΩΛΩΝ Boar at bay to left; below, uncertain letter or monogram; in exergue, spear head to left. BCD Akarnania -. Tsangari -. Unpublished and unknown . Corroded and harshly cleaned, otherwise , nearly very fine.
From a European collection, formed before 2005.
This coin is both startling and unexpected; the idea that an unknown issue of the Aitolian League should appear soon after the publication of Tsangari’s corpus is an extraordinary coincidence! The obverse is immediately reminiscent of the League’s own gold staters; but the style clearly is most similar to the Athena heads found on some of Alexander’s, those minted during his life-time in Macedon. The boar at bay is like a few of the earliest League triobols (as BCD 462 for example). The weight seems to be on the Korkyrian standard as one would expect.

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apollonia
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2 ore fa, King John dice:

Grazie per la simpatia @skubydu ma devo ammettere di aver detto un po' di cavolate sul tema "mascella" dovute principalmente al fatto che ho postato in fretta le immagini di monete trovate, senza il necessario approfondimento e con gli ospiti a tavola che mi chiamavano. Le mie scuse sincere a @apollonia e a tutti gli altri utenti.

Non hai di che scusarti. Hai detto la tua e io ho replicato sulla base delle mie conoscenze storiche e mitologiche, anche per un eventuale approfondimento che le possa confermare o mettere in discussione.

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