Caesar Dictator Perpetuo

[ARES III]

Ho notato una bella moneta in asta:

 

Julius Caesar, as Dictator Perpetuo (February-March 44 BC), with Lucius Aemilius Buca, as Moneyer. AR denarius (18mm, 4.00 gm, 8h). NGC MS 4/5 - 5/5. Rome, February-March 44 BC. DICT•PERPETVO-CAESAR, laureate head of Julius Caesar right / L•BVCA, Venus Victrix standing facing, head left, Victory left in outstretched right hand, grounded scepter in left. Crawford 480/8. Sydenham 1061. Julia 35 and Aemilia 14. Well struck, incredible portrait. Light red orange hues on fully lustrous surfaces. Ex Heritage Auctions, Auction 3094 ANA (19 August 2021), lot 33044; Collection of Roman Republican Coins of a Student and his Mentor Part III (Numismatica Ars Classica, Auction 83, 20 May 2015), lot 448; SKA Bern, Sale 3 (1985), lot 455 For two centuries, Rome had spurned the Hellenistic practice of placing the ruler's portrait on the coinage of the realm, much as they rejected the concept of kingship altogether. So early in 44 BC, many Romans must have been stunned to see the image of Julius Caesar on circulating silver denarii. Like a profusion of other honors and titles, the right to place his image on coins had been bestowed on Caesar, by the Roman Senate. Caesar's enemies may have had an ulterior motive in approving the honor, as it almost certainly would fuel the growing suspicion that Caesar intended to name himself king of Rome. If this was the intent, it succeeded, for within three months a conspiracy had been formed and Caesar was duly assassinated at a meeting of the Senate, on 15 March 44 BC. This rare silver denarius by L. Buca carries a realistic portrait of Caesar on the obverse and the seated image of the dictator's patron goddess, Venus, on the reverse. The obverse legend acclaims Caesar as "DICT(ator) PERPETVO," or "Dictator For Life," a title approved by the Senate in February, 44 BC.

https://www.sixbid.com/it/heritage-auctions-inc/10274/ancients-roman-republic/8871588/julius-caesar-as-dictator-perpetuo

 

E mi è tornato in mente l'esilarante discussione di un anno fa:

 

Qualcuno se la ricorda ?

Sì lo so che le due monete non sono uguali, ma la scritta mi ha fatto fare questo collegamento mentale.

Esiste anche una moneta imitativa (vera) dei geto-daci

Imitations of Roman Republican. Geto-Dacians. After 44 BC. AR Denarius (16mm, 3.68 g, 7h). Imitating Julius Caesar with the moneyer P. Sepullius Macer. Wreathed and veiled head right; CAESAR DICT PERPETVO around / Venus standing left, holding Victory and scepter, to right at feet, shield set on ground; MACER down left; [P • S]EPVLLIVS down right. Davis –. For prototype: cf. Crawford 480/13. Lightly toned, a few light scratches and deposits. VF. Very rare. Crude yet artistically rendered designs.

https://www.sixbid.com/it/classical-numismatic-group/10272/celtic/8868714/eastern-europe-imitations-of-roman

[fastrobert]

Non avevo letto la discussione dello scorso anno, effettivamente è molto divertente, mi sarebbe piaciuto ascoltare la storia del nonno...

La moneta da te postata è stupenda, ma 20.000 dollari è una cifra altissima, nel 2015 era stata battuta per 6.000 Franchi, nel 2021 per 21.000 dollari.

Come mai questo salto? E' la moneta in se o l'andamento del mercato? E poi perché rivenderla un anno dopo l'acquisto?

[ARES III]

15 minuti fa, fastrobert dice:

20.000 dollari

No, siamo ancora ad un'offerta più modesta, circa 12.000 $ 

[L. Licinio Lucullo]

14 ore fa, ARES III dice:

Ho notato una bella moneta in asta:

 

Julius Caesar, as Dictator Perpetuo (February-March 44 BC), with Lucius Aemilius Buca, as Moneyer. AR denarius (18mm, 4.00 gm, 8h). NGC MS 4/5 - 5/5. Rome, February-March 44 BC. DICT•PERPETVO-CAESAR, laureate head of Julius Caesar right / L•BVCA, Venus Victrix standing facing, head left, Victory left in outstretched right hand, grounded scepter in left. Crawford 480/8. Sydenham 1061. Julia 35 and Aemilia 14. Well struck, incredible portrait. Light red orange hues on fully lustrous surfaces. Ex Heritage Auctions, Auction 3094 ANA (19 August 2021), lot 33044; Collection of Roman Republican Coins of a Student and his Mentor Part III (Numismatica Ars Classica, Auction 83, 20 May 2015), lot 448; SKA Bern, Sale 3 (1985), lot 455 For two centuries, Rome had spurned the Hellenistic practice of placing the ruler's portrait on the coinage of the realm, much as they rejected the concept of kingship altogether. So early in 44 BC, many Romans must have been stunned to see the image of Julius Caesar on circulating silver denarii. Like a profusion of other honors and titles, the right to place his image on coins had been bestowed on Caesar, by the Roman Senate. Caesar's enemies may have had an ulterior motive in approving the honor, as it almost certainly would fuel the growing suspicion that Caesar intended to name himself king of Rome. If this was the intent, it succeeded, for within three months a conspiracy had been formed and Caesar was duly assassinated at a meeting of the Senate, on 15 March 44 BC. This rare silver denarius by L. Buca carries a realistic portrait of Caesar on the obverse and the seated image of the dictator's patron goddess, Venus, on the reverse. The obverse legend acclaims Caesar as "DICT(ator) PERPETVO," or "Dictator For Life," a title approved by the Senate in February, 44 BC.

https://www.sixbid.com/it/heritage-auctions-inc/10274/ancients-roman-republic/8871588/julius-caesar-as-dictator-perpetuo

 

E mi è tornato in mente l'esilarante discussione di un anno fa:

 

Qualcuno se la ricorda ?

 

 

 

Bellissima, mi era sfuggita.

[ARES III]

17 minuti fa, L. Licinio Lucullo dice:

Bellissima

La moneta o la discussione 😄 ?

[fastrobert]

Ma qualcuno di voi ha monete di questo calibro in collezione? Forza pubblicate qualche foto, in questa sezione ci sono tante chiacchiere e poca sostanza 😀😃🙂

Attendo fiducioso...

[ARES III]

4 minuti fa, fastrobert dice:

Ma qualcuno di voi ha monete di questo calibro in collezione? Forza pubblicate qualche foto, in questa sezione ci sono tante chiacchiere e poca sostanza 😀😃🙂

 

[fastrobert]

Avete in collezione monete di valore storico ed economico come quella postata? 

[ARES III]

52 minuti fa, fastrobert dice:

Avete in collezione monete di valore storico ed economico come quella postata? 

 

Magariii...se le avessi poi lo spiattellerei a quattro venti, vero ? 

[L. Licinio Lucullo]

Il 9/1/2023 alle 16:20, ARES III dice:

La moneta o la discussione 😄 ?

 

Entrambe ...

[ARES III]

1 ora fa, L. Licinio Lucullo dice:

Entrambe ...

 

Sulla moneta concordo, mentre sulla discussione direi piuttosto che è divertente, modello Crozza.

[modulo_largo]

Un sogno ad occhi aperti..

[fastrobert]

Il 9/1/2023 alle 01:17, ARES III dice:

Ho notato una bella moneta in asta:

 

Julius Caesar, as Dictator Perpetuo (February-March 44 BC), with Lucius Aemilius Buca, as Moneyer. AR denarius (18mm, 4.00 gm, 8h). NGC MS 4/5 - 5/5. Rome, February-March 44 BC. DICT•PERPETVO-CAESAR, laureate head of Julius Caesar right / L•BVCA, Venus Victrix standing facing, head left, Victory left in outstretched right hand, grounded scepter in left. Crawford 480/8. Sydenham 1061. Julia 35 and Aemilia 14. Well struck, incredible portrait. Light red orange hues on fully lustrous surfaces. Ex Heritage Auctions, Auction 3094 ANA (19 August 2021), lot 33044; Collection of Roman Republican Coins of a Student and his Mentor Part III (Numismatica Ars Classica, Auction 83, 20 May 2015), lot 448; SKA Bern, Sale 3 (1985), lot 455 For two centuries, Rome had spurned the Hellenistic practice of placing the ruler's portrait on the coinage of the realm, much as they rejected the concept of kingship altogether. So early in 44 BC, many Romans must have been stunned to see the image of Julius Caesar on circulating silver denarii. Like a profusion of other honors and titles, the right to place his image on coins had been bestowed on Caesar, by the Roman Senate. Caesar's enemies may have had an ulterior motive in approving the honor, as it almost certainly would fuel the growing suspicion that Caesar intended to name himself king of Rome. If this was the intent, it succeeded, for within three months a conspiracy had been formed and Caesar was duly assassinated at a meeting of the Senate, on 15 March 44 BC. This rare silver denarius by L. Buca carries a realistic portrait of Caesar on the obverse and the seated image of the dictator's patron goddess, Venus, on the reverse. The obverse legend acclaims Caesar as "DICT(ator) PERPETVO," or "Dictator For Life," a title approved by the Senate in February, 44 BC.

https://www.sixbid.com/it/heritage-auctions-inc/10274/ancients-roman-republic/8871588/julius-caesar-as-dictator-perpetuo

 

E mi è tornato in mente l'esilarante discussione di un anno fa:

 

Qualcuno se la ricorda ?

Sì lo so che le due monete non sono uguali, ma la scritta mi ha fatto fare questo collegamento mentale.

Esiste anche una moneta imitativa (vera) dei geto-daci

Imitations of Roman Republican. Geto-Dacians. After 44 BC. AR Denarius (16mm, 3.68 g, 7h). Imitating Julius Caesar with the moneyer P. Sepullius Macer. Wreathed and veiled head right; CAESAR DICT PERPETVO around / Venus standing left, holding Victory and scepter, to right at feet, shield set on ground; MACER down left; [P • S]EPVLLIVS down right. Davis –. For prototype: cf. Crawford 480/13. Lightly toned, a few light scratches and deposits. VF. Very rare. Crude yet artistically rendered designs.

https://www.sixbid.com/it/classical-numismatic-group/10272/celtic/8868714/eastern-europe-imitations-of-roman

 

L'imitativa è stata battuta ieri per 4.250 dollari 

[teitor]

francamente mi era sembrata una copia moderna, io l'avrei fatta cosi.

[fastrobert]

Il 9/1/2023 alle 13:36, ARES III dice:

No, siamo ancora ad un'offerta più modesta, circa 12.000 $ 

 

A quanto è stata battuta?

[ARES III]

2 ore fa, fastrobert dice:

A quanto è stata battuta?

 

Non lo so.