VIII ENIGMA NUMISMATICO DELLA SFINGE

[King John]

[Archestrato]

Buona domenica,

Potrebbe trattarsi di una dracma di Argo del secondo quarto del IV sec. a.C. con al rovescio Diomede che regge il Paalladio di Troia dopo averlo rubato, causando poi come conseguenza la caduta della città; al dritto la testa di Era.

Un esemplare ex LHS Numismatik AG, asta 96, lotto 1059:

 

[littleEvil]

nooooo! @Archestrato mi ha precedeuto!

E io che mi pregustavo un' altra sfinge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

la moneta che presento è meglio conservata... almeno una sfingetta di bronzo? sii clemente @King John!

Ciao

Njk

 

PS:

http://ancientcoinage.org/the-trojan-war.html

Coins of Diomedes

Diomedes, the heroic king of Argos, was one of the famous Achaeans who fought at Troy. He and the Greater Ajax were considered their second best warriors, after Achilles. In the Iliad, he is portrayed as a brilliant and courageous fighter, whose zeal in pitched battle led to the wounding of the goddess Aphrodite (Il. 5.330, 351). With the help of Odysseus, Diomedes stole the Palladion from its sanctuary in the Trojan citadel, thereby fulfilling the prophecy that by doing so would effect the downfall of Troy (Apollodoros, Epitome 5. 10, Konon, Diegesis 34).

The Palladium was a xoanon, or ancient wooden effigy, of Pallas Athena that had purportedly fallen from heaven. According to Apollodoros, it was fashioned by Athena and named in memory of Pallas, the daughter of Triton, who was accidentally killed while sporting with the goddess. It remained on Olympos until it was cast out of heaven into the countryside around Troy. It was discovered there by Ilos, who enshrined it in his newly founded city of Ilion (Troy), where it remained until the Trojan War.

Following its theft, many legends arose regarding the whereabouts of the Palladium. It was reputed to have remained in the possession of either Diomedes or Odysseus. The Athenians claimed that it was kept in the Erechtheion on the Acropolis and was ritually cleaned in an annual ceremony called the Plyntereia (the Clothes Washing Ceremony). The Roman poet Virgil asserted that the figurine had not been stolen at all, but had been saved by the Trojan hero Aeneas during Troy’s fall, and brought to Italy, where centuries later it was installed in the Temple of Vesta on the Roman Forum. In early Christian times, Clement of Alexandria claimed to have personally seen it and described it as, a shapeless, dark piece of wood.

Modificato 27 Novembre, 2016 da littleEvil

[King John]

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[King John]

sono sconcertato...

ma siete dei

 

[King John]

@Archestrato

Ci stai prendendo gusto, eh? Ecco il tuo premio: per variare la tua già cospicua collezione di "Sphinx virtual coins" il premio di oggi viene direttamente da Mitilene.

[King John]

@littleEvil

Poichè il tuo ritardo è stato solo di pochi minuti rispetto a quella faina di Archestrato, sei meritevole anche tu di un oro (altro che bronzo) di Mitilene.

[King John]

Però così non vale: quest'enigma è rimasto insoluto solo per mezz'ora!!!!! Il prossimo sarà difficilissimo!!

[skubydu]

41 minuti fa, littleEvil dice:

nooooo! @Archestrato mi ha precedeuto!

E io che mi pregustavo un' altra sfinge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

la moneta che presento è meglio conservata... almeno una sfingetta di bronzo? sii clemente @King John!

Ciao

Njk

 

PS:

http://ancientcoinage.org/the-trojan-war.html

Coins of Diomedes

Diomedes, the heroic king of Argos, was one of the famous Achaeans who fought at Troy. He and the Greater Ajax were considered their second best warriors, after Achilles. In the Iliad, he is portrayed as a brilliant and courageous fighter, whose zeal in pitched battle led to the wounding of the goddess Aphrodite (Il. 5.330, 351). With the help of Odysseus, Diomedes stole the Palladion from its sanctuary in the Trojan citadel, thereby fulfilling the prophecy that by doing so would effect the downfall of Troy (Apollodoros, Epitome 5. 10, Konon, Diegesis 34).

The Palladium was a xoanon, or ancient wooden effigy, of Pallas Athena that had purportedly fallen from heaven. According to Apollodoros, it was fashioned by Athena and named in memory of Pallas, the daughter of Triton, who was accidentally killed while sporting with the goddess. It remained on Olympos until it was cast out of heaven into the countryside around Troy. It was discovered there by Ilos, who enshrined it in his newly founded city of Ilion (Troy), where it remained until the Trojan War.

Following its theft, many legends arose regarding the whereabouts of the Palladium. It was reputed to have remained in the possession of either Diomedes or Odysseus. The Athenians claimed that it was kept in the Erechtheion on the Acropolis and was ritually cleaned in an annual ceremony called the Plyntereia (the Clothes Washing Ceremony). The Roman poet Virgil asserted that the figurine had not been stolen at all, but had been saved by the Trojan hero Aeneas during Troy’s fall, and brought to Italy, where centuries later it was installed in the Temple of Vesta on the Roman Forum. In early Christian times, Clement of Alexandria claimed to have personally seen it and described it as, a shapeless, dark piece of wood.

è impressionante quanto Era sia stilisticamente somigliante alla dea incisa  su litre e bronzi di Thermai H. in Sicilia.

Riprova che gli incisori si rifacevano a modelli stilistici del tempo.

 

Skuby

 

 

[King John]

52 minuti fa, skubydu dice:

è impressionante quanto Era sia stilisticamente somigliante alla dea incisa  su litre e bronzi di Thermai H. in Sicilia.

Riprova che gli incisori si rifacevano a modelli stilistici del tempo.

 

Skuby

 

 

effettivamente....

GRIECHISCHE MÜNZEN
SIZILIEN
THERMAI (HIMERA)
AR-Litra, 383 - 367. QEPMITAN. Kopf der Hera mit palmettenverziertem Polos nach rechts. Rs: Nackter Herakles auf Felsen nach links sitzend, in der Rechten Keule haltend, im Feld rechts Bogen. Campana, CNAI 2a; Weber 1365. 0,64g. Selten. Getönt, gut zentriert, vorzüglich/fast vorzüglich.