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Litra_SIRACUSA - SECONDA DEMOCRAZIA 466-405 A.C.

Boehringer Series XIIIb; SNG ANS 137-43; HGC 2, 1375.

Peso: 0,76g

Mi piacerebbe ricevere opinioni dai più esperti sull'autenticità della moneta.

 

 

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Litra_SIRACUSA - SECONDA DEMOCRAZIA 466-405 A.C.

Boehringer Series XIIIb; SNG ANS 137-43; HGC 2, 1375.

Peso: 0,76g

Mi piacerebbe ricevere opinioni dai più esperti sull'autenticità della moneta.

 

 

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Autentica e in buona conservazione

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Ciao,

A die match if you are curious https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7223921 / https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11428289. Look at the 2nd tentacle from the left of the octopus especially.

Just my opinion but this 2nd tentacle is slightly odd, there is an very empty gap under it. If you were to look at Boehringer 415-422 (no retrograde R, hair combed forward, "skinny" Arethusa) https://www.lelouch.net/articles/die-munzen-von-syrakus-catalog#boehringer-415 the 2nd tentacle, all curls in towards the body. Also, the separated R glyph. 

https://media.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2026_01/Screenshot2026-01-08at15-14-40Litra_SIRACUSA-SECONDADEMOCRAZIA466-405A.C.-MonetegrecheSiciliaeMagnaGrecia-Lamoneta.it-Numismaticamonetecollezionismo.png.f75cb30a444467d4e0311d633a7a9930.png

In most the leg is connected to the top part of the R.

The form of the glyph recorded by Boehringer.

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I don't think it is fake. Maybe barbarous?

That 2nd tentacle from the left still does look weird to me, generally they did try to keep them close to the center, probably to minimize stuff of flan. All of the Boehringer ones do, and unfortunately he is not explicit as to why he calls the barbarous ones barbarous, but tentacle positioning is one of them. Not the best Arethusa head and lettering either. See the barbarous ones around https://www.lelouch.net/articles/die-munzen-von-syrakus-catalog#boehringer-b15.

The red is where I would expect the tentacle would be.

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Ciao,

A die match if you are curious https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7223921 / https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11428289. Look at the 2nd tentacle from the left of the octopus especially.

Just my opinion but this 2nd tentacle is slightly odd, there is an very empty gap under it. If you were to look at Boehringer 415-422 (no retrograde R, hair combed forward, "skinny" Arethusa) https://www.lelouch.net/articles/die-munzen-von-syrakus-catalog#boehringer-415 the 2nd tentacle, all curls in towards the body. Also, the separated R glyph. 

https://media.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2026_01/Screenshot2026-01-08at15-14-40Litra_SIRACUSA-SECONDADEMOCRAZIA466-405A.C.-MonetegrecheSiciliaeMagnaGrecia-Lamoneta.it-Numismaticamonetecollezionismo.png.f75cb30a444467d4e0311d633a7a9930.png

In most the leg is connected to the top part of the R.

The form of the glyph recorded by Boehringer.

image.png.9c7308b16948bc91e486427994b3e828.png

I don't think it is fake. Maybe barbarous?

That 2nd tentacle from the left still does look weird to me, generally they did try to keep them close to the center, probably to minimize stuff of flan. All of the Boehringer ones do, and unfortunately he is not explicit as to why he calls the barbarous ones barbarous, but tentacle positioning is one of them. Not the best Arethusa head and lettering either. See the barbarous ones around https://www.lelouch.net/articles/die-munzen-von-syrakus-catalog#boehringer-b15.

The red is where I would expect the tentacle would be.

octopRevComparison.thumb.jpg.8e1037e77df202df98a7e1bf68846e7d.jpg

 

Riguardo al secondo tentacolo però non noto nulla di diverso, nessuna anomalia.


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